737s Maria Bartiromo presses Huawei exec on 'back door' allegations images and subtitles

>> HOW DID HE GET THAT? MARIA: THAT IS AWESOME AND TRUMPMARIA: THAT IS AWESOME AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BATTLE AGAINSTADMINISTRATION BATTLE AGAINST CHINESE TELL COME GIANTCHINESE TELL COME GIANT INTENSIFY THIS MORNING THISINTENSIFY THIS MORNING THIS COMESES ON HEELS OF THECOMESES ON HEELS OF THE REVELATION THAT HUAWEIREVELATION THAT HUAWEI REPORTEDLY HAS EVEN MORE ACCESSREPORTEDLY HAS EVEN MORE ACCESS TO INFORMATION POSSIBLY ABOUTTO INFORMATION POSSIBLY ABOUT YOU THAN PREVIOUS WILL THOUGHT.YOU THAN PREVIOUS WILL THOUGHT. INTEL SOURCES SAY BIG KNOWN FORINTEL SOURCES SAY BIG KNOWN FOR YEARS THAT WASHINGTON BUILDSYEARS THAT WASHINGTON BUILDS COVERT ACCESS TO CHINESECOVERT ACCESS TO CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND TO MOBILEGOVERNMENT AND TO MOBILE HARDWARE SOFTWARE AND SYSTEMSHARDWARE SOFTWARE AND SYSTEMS KNOWN IN A CYBERWORLD AS BACKKNOWN IN A CYBERWORLD AS BACK DOORS.DOORS. JOINING ME IS CHIEF SECURITYJOINING ME IS CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER AND GREAT TO SEE YOUOFFICER AND GREAT TO SEE YOU THANKS FOR COMING BACK THISSINGTHANKS FOR COMING BACK THISSING MORNING.MORNING. >> SO YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS>> SO YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OVER AND OVER ABOUTDISCUSSION OVER AND OVER ABOUT BACK DOOR AND I MENTION TO YOUBACK DOOR AND I MENTION TO YOU IN OUR LAST INTERVIEW, IN FACT,IN OUR LAST INTERVIEW, IN FACT, TALKING ABOUT VOTE A PHONETALKING ABOUT VOTE A PHONE TALKING ABOUT --TALKING ABOUT -- WHAT HAPPENED IN AFRICA INWHAT HAPPENED IN AFRICA IN EUROPE WHERE THERE ARE BACKEUROPE WHERE THERE ARE BACK DOORS WITHIN HUAWEI COMMITMENTDOORS WITHIN HUAWEI COMMITMENT THAT ALLOWS THE DATA TO GO RIGHTTHAT ALLOWS THE DATA TO GO RIGHT BACK TO THE COMMUNE FISTBACK TO THE COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT.GOVERNMENT. YOU HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER THATYOU HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER THAT IT IS JUST IS NOT TRUE.IT IS JUST IS NOT TRUE. NOW WE HAVE CONFIRMATION FROMNOW WE HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOUR REACTION.YOUR REACTION. EFNL WELL I THINK IT ISEFNL WELL I THINK IT IS FANTASTIC NEWS THAT THE UNITEDFANTASTIC NEWS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAVE DECIDED TOSTATES HAVE DECIDED TO DECLASSIFY THIS INFORMATION THATDECLASSIFY THIS INFORMATION THAT THEY’VE BEEN PROVIDING TO OURTHEY’VE BEEN PROVIDING TO OUR ALLIES WITHOUT ABLE TO CONVINCEALLIES WITHOUT ABLE TO CONVINCE THEM SO I WOULD ASK U.S.THEM SO I WOULD ASK U.S. PLEASE --PLEASE -- RELEASE SO-CALLED EVIDENCERELEASE SO-CALLED EVIDENCE BECAUSE AS --BECAUSE AS -- TELL COME AS VOTE GERMANY SAIDTELL COME AS VOTE GERMANY SAID THEY’RE NOT WORRIED.THEY’RE NOT WORRIED. THEY PROVIDE THE COMMITMENTTHEY PROVIDE THE COMMITMENT THAT’S NECESSARY FOR LAWFULTHAT’S NECESSARY FOR LAWFUL INTERCEPT OUR EQUIPMENT DOESN’TINTERCEPT OUR EQUIPMENT DOESN’T DO THAT.DO THAT. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS ANDWE DO NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS AND THAT’S THE FACTS AND SO I’VETHAT’S THE FACTS AND SO I’VE ENCOURAGED U.S. GOVERNMENT TOENCOURAGED U.S. GOVERNMENT TO BRING THEIR SO-CALLED EVIDENCEBRING THEIR SO-CALLED EVIDENCE FORWARD.FORWARD. >> WAIT A SENDING WE DO HAVE -->> WAIT A SENDING WE DO HAVE -- WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE EVIDENCE ANDWE ACTUALLY DO HAVE EVIDENCE AND YOU KNOW THAT.YOU KNOW THAT. YOUR COMPANY HAS SETTLED WITHYOUR COMPANY HAS SETTLED WITH NUMBER OF TECHNOLOGY COMPANIESNUMBER OF TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES AS A RESULT OF THIS.AS A RESULT OF THIS. AMONG OTHER PUNISHES NOT TOAMONG OTHER PUNISHES NOT TO MENTION THE THEFT OF INTLEKMENTION THE THEFT OF INTLEK WHICH WILL PROPERTY AND WE KNOWWHICH WILL PROPERTY AND WE KNOW VOTE A PHONE ITALY HAD THISVOTE A PHONE ITALY HAD THIS ISSUE VOTE A VOTE ITALY FOUNDISSUE VOTE A VOTE ITALY FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE BACK DOORSOUT THAT THEY WERE BACK DOORS AND THEN THEY HAD TO RAISE THEIRAND THEN THEY HAD TO RAISE THEIR HAND, TELL HUAWEI EXECUTIVESHAND, TELL HUAWEI EXECUTIVES THEY’RE A BACK DOOR HERE AND DIDTHEY’RE A BACK DOOR HERE AND DID SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT YOU SAIDSOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT YOU SAID YOU CHANGED BACK DOOR SO WEYOU CHANGED BACK DOOR SO WE ACTUALLY DO INDEED HAVE EVIDENCEACTUALLY DO INDEED HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THERE ARE BACK DOORSES ANDYTHAT THERE ARE BACK DOORSES ANDY AND YOU KNOW THAT.AND YOU KNOW THAT. YOU’RE THE CHIEF SECURITYYOU’RE THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER.OFFICER. >> LAST TIME I WAS ON YOUR SHOW>> LAST TIME I WAS ON YOUR SHOW I ENCOURAGE YOU AND OFFERED YOUI ENCOURAGE YOU AND OFFERED YOU TO LET YOU USE MY PHONE AND VOTETO LET YOU USE MY PHONE AND VOTE IS A PHONE ITALY BECAUSE VOTE AIS A PHONE ITALY BECAUSE VOTE A PHONE ITALY DOES NOT BELIEVEPHONE ITALY DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT HUAWEI HAD BACK DOORS THEYTHAT HUAWEI HAD BACK DOORS THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOUDO NOT BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS TRUE.JUST SAID IS TRUE. BUT THE GREAT THING IS, THATBUT THE GREAT THING IS, THAT U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS SO-CALLEDU.S. GOVERNMENT HAS SO-CALLED DECLASSIFIED THIS NEWDECLASSIFIED THIS NEW EVIDENCE --EVIDENCE -- AS THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO COMEAS THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SMOKING WHICH THEYUP WITH A SMOKING WHICH THEY DON’T HAVE CANT YOU JOIN MEDON’T HAVE CANT YOU JOIN ME MARIA AND ASKING THAT U.S.MARIA AND ASKING THAT U.S. GOVERNMENT TO RELEASE THISGOVERNMENT TO RELEASE THIS UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION.UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION. >> I DON’T NEED TO SEE ANY>> I DON’T NEED TO SEE ANY UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION.UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION. I’VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THEI’VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE COMPANIES AND THEIR CEOS.COMPANIES AND THEIR CEOS. MANY TIMES ANDY AND WHEN I LOOKMANY TIMES ANDY AND WHEN I LOOK AT VOTE A PHONE THE REASON THATAT VOTE A PHONE THE REASON THAT VOTE A TONE IS NOWEN A NEUTRALVOTE A TONE IS NOWEN A NEUTRAL LEVEL IS BECAUSE YOU SETTLEDLEVEL IS BECAUSE YOU SETTLED WITH THEM.WITH THEM. AND A THE SETTLEMENTS ENSUREAND A THE SETTLEMENTS ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE TO SEES ASIS ANDTHAT THEY HAVE TO SEES ASIS AND NOT DISCUSS THE CASE ANYMORE.NOT DISCUSS THE CASE ANYMORE. >> VOTE A PHONE HAS SAID>> VOTE A PHONE HAS SAID PUBLICLY IN THE --PUBLICLY IN THE -- RECENTLY EVEN RESPONSE TO WALLRECENTLY EVEN RESPONSE TO WALL STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE THEY ARESTREET JOURNAL ARTICLE THEY ARE NOT WORRIED.NOT WORRIED. THAT THEY PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENTTHAT THEY PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT THAT ALLOWS THE LAWFUL INTERCEPTTHAT ALLOWS THE LAWFUL INTERCEPT FROM OUR EQUIPMENT.FROM OUR EQUIPMENT. WE DON’T PROVIDE THAT EQUIPMENTWE DON’T PROVIDE THAT EQUIPMENT WITHOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT THEREWITHOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT THERE CAN BE NO ACCESS SO ACCESS TOCAN BE NO ACCESS SO ACCESS TO PERMISSION.PERMISSION. HERE’S A STORY THAT I HAVE INHERE’S A STORY THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME FROM PLC.FRONT OF ME FROM PLC. VOTE A PHONE GROUP PLC HASVOTE A PHONE GROUP PLC HAS ACKNOWLEDGEDACKNOWLEDGED ACKNOWLEDGE IT HAS FOUNDACKNOWLEDGE IT HAS FOUND VULNERABLES BACK FOR YEARS BYVULNERABLES BACK FOR YEARS BY BASED HUAWEI FOR THE CARRIERBASED HUAWEI FOR THE CARRIER ITALIAN BUSINESS WHILE VOTE AITALIAN BUSINESS WHILE VOTE A PHONE SAYS ISSUES WERE RESOLVEDPHONE SAYS ISSUES WERE RESOLVED REVELATION MAY FURTHER DAMAGEREVELATION MAY FURTHER DAMAGE THE REPUTATION OF A MAJOR SYMBOLTHE REPUTATION OF A MAJOR SYMBOL OF CHINESE GLOBAL TECHNOLOGYOF CHINESE GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY PARALYSIS.PARALYSIS. THIS IS A BLOOMBERG STORY WHYTHIS IS A BLOOMBERG STORY WHY DON’T YOU GRADE SCHOOL IT?DON’T YOU GRADE SCHOOL IT? >> ALL EQUIPMENT HAS>> ALL EQUIPMENT HAS VULNERABILITIES.VULNERABILITIES. THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN ANTHAT’S DIFFERENT THAN AN INTENTIONAL MALICIOUS BACK DOORINTENTIONAL MALICIOUS BACK DOOR MARCH WHY AND YOU KNOW THAT.MARCH WHY AND YOU KNOW THAT. ENING ALL EQUIPMENT HASENING ALL EQUIPMENT HAS VULNERABILITY?VULNERABILITY? ALL EQUIPMENT DOES NOT HAVE BACKALL EQUIPMENT DOES NOT HAVE BACK DOORS TO THE CHINESE COMMUNEDOORS TO THE CHINESE COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT.FIST GOVERNMENT. WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY BACKWHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY BACK DOORS GOING TO THE CHINESEDOORS GOING TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT THAT THE COMMUNE FISTGOVERNMENT THAT THE COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT SO THAT ANYBODY DATAGOVERNMENT SO THAT ANYBODY DATA IS OUT THERE AND GOES RIGHT BACKIS OUT THERE AND GOES RIGHT BACK TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT?TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT? WE KNOW THIS HUAWEI IS A CHINESEWE KNOW THIS HUAWEI IS A CHINESE COMPANY IF YOU CAN’T GO AGAINSTCOMPANY IF YOU CAN’T GO AGAINST CHINA RULE ARE YOU GOING TO SAYCHINA RULE ARE YOU GOING TO SAY TO XI JINPING WE’RE NOT GOING TOTO XI JINPING WE’RE NOT GOING TO PUT A BACK DOOR ON THIS AND GOPUT A BACK DOOR ON THIS AND GO UP AGAINST THAT EVEN THOUGH WEUP AGAINST THAT EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW CHINESE ECONOMIES HAVE TOKNOW CHINESE ECONOMIES HAVE TO LIST TO COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENTLIST TO COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT OF CHINA?OF CHINA? >> ABSOLUTELY.>> ABSOLUTELY. AND UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU LOOKAND UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SITUATION, LOOK AT IT INAT THIS SITUATION, LOOK AT IT IN A MACRO SENSE THAT YIET ISA MACRO SENSE THAT YIET IS TRYING TO HURT CHINA BY HURTINGTRYING TO HURT CHINA BY HURTING WAY.WAY. CLEARLY, THE UNITED STATES ISCLEARLY, THE UNITED STATES IS HURTING AMERICA MORE THAN IT ISHURTING AMERICA MORE THAN IT IS HURTING WAY AND UNITED STATESHURTING WAY AND UNITED STATES WILL NOT THINK THIS PASSIONATELYWILL NOT THINK THIS PASSIONATELY ABOUT WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TOABOUT WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO THE UNITED STATES IN MATERIALSTHE UNITED STATES IN MATERIALS OF THE COMPETITION WITHIN CHINA.OF THE COMPETITION WITHIN CHINA. UNITED STATES WILL NOT CREATE AUNITED STATES WILL NOT CREATE A TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION POLICY.TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION POLICY. THEY WILL NOT --THEY WILL NOT -- >> ANDY, ANDY -->> ANDY, ANDY -- CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY --CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY -- COME ON ANDY.COME ON ANDY. PLEASE.PLEASE. AND CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY --AND CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY -- 00 COMPANIES TO SETTLE HUAWEI.00 COMPANIES TO SETTLE HUAWEI. THE CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY ISTHE CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY,A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY, CORRECT?CORRECT? WE CAN PUT IN --WE CAN PUT IN -- HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS ON HUAWEIHOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS ON HUAWEI BOARD ARE MEMBERS OF THEBOARD ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?COMMUNIST PARTY? FIVE?FIVE? >> I HAVE NO IDEA MARIA BUT WE>> I HAVE NO IDEA MARIA BUT WE CAN PUT IT AND PROVE THAT OURCAN PUT IT AND PROVE THAT OUR EQUIPMENT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANYEQUIPMENT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY INFLUENCE FOR THE CHINAINFLUENCE FOR THE CHINA GOVERNMENT AND WE CAN PROVEGOVERNMENT AND WE CAN PROVE SO --SO -- >> HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT BECAUSE>> HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT BECAUSE I’VE GOT THIS RIGHT HERE.I’VE GOT THIS RIGHT HERE. EUROPE BIGGEST PHONE COMPANYEUROPE BIGGEST PHONE COMPANY IDENTIFY HIS OPINION BACK DOORIDENTIFY HIS OPINION BACK DOOR IN SOFTWARE THAT COULD HAVEIN SOFTWARE THAT COULD HAVE GIVEN HUAWEI UNTHORSZED ACCESSGIVEN HUAWEI UNTHORSZED ACCESS TO CARRIERS FIXED LINE NETWORK ATO CARRIERS FIXED LINE NETWORK A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES INTERNETSYSTEM THAT PROVIDES INTERNET SERVICE TO L HL HADS HOME IT PRESERVICE TO L HL HADS HOME IT PRE CLEAR THAT HUAWEI WANTS TO SETCLEAR THAT HUAWEI WANTS TO SET UP INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL OF THEUP INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL OF THE AS MANY COUNTRIES AS WILL ALLOWAS MANY COUNTRIES AS WILL ALLOW BY GIVING THEM CHEAPBY GIVING THEM CHEAP INFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY HAVE BACKINFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY HAVE BACK DOOR INTO ALL OF THIS HAD DATADOOR INTO ALL OF THIS HAD DATA AND CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENTAND CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT CAN STEAL DA A TAY AND GETCAN STEAL DA A TAY AND GET SMARTER IN TERMS HOW OTHERS ARESMARTER IN TERMS HOW OTHERS ARE DOING THEIR BUSINESS WHATEVER ITDOING THEIR BUSINESS WHATEVER IT IS THAT COMMUNIST GOVERNMENTIS THAT COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT WANTS THIS DATA FOR.WANTS THIS DATA FOR. >> APPARENTLY MOST THE WORLD>> APPARENTLY MOST THE WORLD DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU ANDDOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU AND BELIEVE THERE’S SUCH EVIDENCE.BELIEVE THERE’S SUCH EVIDENCE. WE HAVE TESTING MECHANISMS INWE HAVE TESTING MECHANISMS IN PLACE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM INPLACE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM IN BOND IN BRUSSELS IN CANADA WHEREBOND IN BRUSSELS IN CANADA WHERE THE EQUIPMENT CAN BE TESTED.THE EQUIPMENT CAN BE TESTED. THE FORMER DEPUTY FOR DNI SAIDTHE FORMER DEPUTY FOR DNI SAID WE CAN FIND BACK DOOR AND WEWE CAN FIND BACK DOOR AND WE HAVE MECHANISMS IN PLACE FORHAVE MECHANISMS IN PLACE FOR ACCESSING DATA WE CAN PROVE THATACCESSING DATA WE CAN PROVE THAT OUR DATA IS ONLY SUBJECT TO --OUR DATA IS ONLY SUBJECT TO -- SUBJECT TO TOTAL CONTROL BY THESUBJECT TO TOTAL CONTROL BY THE CARRIERS, EVERY KEY STROKE THATCARRIERS, EVERY KEY STROKE THAT WE ACCESS IS RECORDED.WE ACCESS IS RECORDED. THEY KNOW WHETHER --THEY KNOW WHETHER -- WHAT WE ACCESS AND THEY KNOWWHAT WE ACCESS AND THEY KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH IT AND PROVEWHAT WE DO WITH IT AND PROVE WE’RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PICKETWE’RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PICKET POINT OF THE CHINA GOVERNMENT.POINT OF THE CHINA GOVERNMENT. >> YOU HAVE CHINESE COMMUNESSIST>> YOU HAVE CHINESE COMMUNESSIST ON BOARD AND RUNNING COMPANY.ON BOARD AND RUNNING COMPANY. CHAIRL OF THE BOARD --CHAIRL OF THE BOARD -- IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNISTIS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY YOU HAVE SEVERAL BOARDPARTY YOU HAVE SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE MEMBERSMEMBERS THAT ARE MEMBERS OFFICIAL MEMBERS OF THE CHINESEOFFICIAL MEMBERS OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY ANDY.COMMUNIST PARTY ANDY. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS AND I KNOWYOU SHOULD KNOW THIS AND I KNOW YOU DO KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU’REYOU DO KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU’RE THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER.THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER. BUT MARIA, YOU’RE NOT LISTENBUT MARIA, YOU’RE NOT LISTEN HADDING TO WHAT I’M SAYING IHADDING TO WHAT I’M SAYING I KNOW YOU THINK YOU ARE BUTKNOW YOU THINK YOU ARE BUT YOU’RE NOT.YOU’RE NOT. THE FACT IS THERE ARE MECHANISMSTHE FACT IS THERE ARE MECHANISMS IN PLACE WHERE INDEPENDENTIN PLACE WHERE INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN TEST THE SOFTWAREEXPERTS CAN TEST THE SOFTWARE FOR VULNERABILITIES, AND CANFOR VULNERABILITIES, AND CAN TEST FOR BACK DOORS, ANDTEST FOR BACK DOORS, AND REGARDING THE --REGARDING THE -- THE UPDATES TO THE EQUIPMENT,THE UPDATES TO THE EQUIPMENT, INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN EVALUATEINDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN EVALUATE UPDATES TO MAKE A SUREST THEREUPDATES TO MAKE A SUREST THERE IS NO IMPROPER ACCESS BY HUAWEIIS NO IMPROPER ACCESS BY HUAWEI TO ANY CUSTOMER.TO ANY CUSTOMER. >> WHERE WERE THESE INDEPENDENT>> WHERE WERE THESE INDEPENDENT EXPERT WHEN VOTE A PHONEEXPERT WHEN VOTE A PHONE FOUNDING BACK OR DOORS WHEREFOUNDING BACK OR DOORS WHERE WERE THESE INABOUT DEPENDENTWERE THESE INABOUT DEPENDENT EXPERTS WHEN OTHERS THROUGHOUTEXPERTS WHEN OTHERS THROUGHOUT EUROPE WITH AND AFRICA FOUNDINGEUROPE WITH AND AFRICA FOUNDING BACK DOORSES AFTER YOU STALLEDBACK DOORSES AFTER YOU STALLED IN FREE AFRICA NATIONS WHEREIN FREE AFRICA NATIONS WHERE WERE THESE INDEPENDENT AND WHOWERE THESE INDEPENDENT AND WHO ARE THESE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVEARE THESE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM ON THE SHOW.THEM ON THE SHOW. >> SURE, I’LL GET YOU NAMES OF>> SURE, I’LL GET YOU NAMES OF COMPANIES.COMPANIES. >> TELL ME NOW -->> TELL ME NOW -- >> NO NAMES OFF THE TOP OF MY>> NO NAMES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I’M SORRY.HEAD I’M SORRY. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE PENTAGON SET TO BACK NEW U.S.PENTAGON SET TO BACK NEW U.S. RESTRICTION ISES ON HUAWEI ANDRESTRICTION ISES ON HUAWEI AND PUTT ON EXPERTS HOW HAS THATPUTT ON EXPERTS HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED COMPANY ANDY?IMPACTED COMPANY ANDY? >> I’M SORRY MISSED FIRST PART>> I’M SORRY MISSED FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION.OF YOUR QUESTION. >> WELL L WE HAVE NOW NEW>> WELL L WE HAVE NOW NEW RESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEIRESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEI EQUIPMENT.EQUIPMENT. HOW IS IT IMPACTED YOUR COMPANY?HOW IS IT IMPACTED YOUR COMPANY? THE PENTAGON IS SET TO BACK NEWTHE PENTAGON IS SET TO BACK NEW RESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEIRESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES.TECHNOLOGIES. >> WELL, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES>> WELL, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THIS IS ABILITY TO SELL IN WHICHTHIS IS ABILITY TO SELL IN WHICH YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABILITYYOU’RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABILITY OF UP TO 300 COMPANIESES ONE ISOF UP TO 300 COMPANIESES ONE IS SELL TO HUAWEI.SELL TO HUAWEI. THE DEPARTMENT OF THE DEFENSETHE DEPARTMENT OF THE DEFENSE THAT INTERPOSED RULE TO FURTHERTHAT INTERPOSED RULE TO FURTHER LIMIT ABILITY OF AMERICANLIMIT ABILITY OF AMERICAN COMPANIESCOMPANIES SELL TO HUAWEI WE PURCHASE ABOUTSELL TO HUAWEI WE PURCHASE ABOUT 11 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND11 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND FACT IS AND I’VE COME BACK FROMFACT IS AND I’VE COME BACK FROM DETAIL MEETINGS, IT IS CLEARDETAIL MEETINGS, IT IS CLEAR THAT WHILE THE IMPACT ON HUAWEITHAT WHILE THE IMPACT ON HUAWEI WILL BE AN IMPACT OF THE FACTWILL BE AN IMPACT OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN’T BUY THOSETHAT WE CAN’T BUY THOSE TECHNOLOGIES.TECHNOLOGIES. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACKAND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO BUY THEM.TO BUY THEM. BUT WHAT IS CERTAIN IS, WE’REBUT WHAT IS CERTAIN IS, WE’RE GOING TO BE FINE OUR PLAN BGOING TO BE FINE OUR PLAN B ISING WORKING WELL AND WE’REISING WORKING WELL AND WE’RE INCREDITTEDDABLY SUCCESSFUL EVENINCREDITTEDDABLY SUCCESSFUL EVEN IF WE DON’T BUY FROM AMERICANIF WE DON’T BUY FROM AMERICAN COMPANIESES AND HAD AMERICA ISCOMPANIESES AND HAD AMERICA IS GOING TO LOSE.GOING TO LOSE. U.S. HAS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ISU.S. HAS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE U.S. THEGOING TO BENEFIT THE U.S. THE MOST.MOST. CONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONSCONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONS AND WHAT KIND OF LITIGATION TOAND WHAT KIND OF LITIGATION TO BE PUT IN PLACE.BE PUT IN PLACE. >> DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD.>> DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD. >> YOU KNOW -->> YOU KNOW -- WHAT SIZZLE FUSION IS --WHAT SIZZLE FUSION IS -- WHERE ANY TECHNOLOGY GOING INTOWHERE ANY TECHNOLOGY GOING INTO CHINA HAS TO FIRST GO TO THECHINA HAS TO FIRST GO TO THE MILITARY.MILITARY. YOU KNOW THAT CHINESEYOU KNOW THAT CHINESE ASPIRATIONS TO BE THE NUMBER ONEASPIRATIONS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE SUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD BOTHSUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND A MILITARILY.ECONOMICALLY AND A MILITARILY. YOUR PRODUCTS ARE ENABLE AINGYOUR PRODUCTS ARE ENABLE AING OTHER COMPANIES IF TO ALLOWOTHER COMPANIES IF TO ALLOW ACCESS INTO THEIR DATA SO THATACCESS INTO THEIR DATA SO THAT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT CAN HAVETHE CHINESE GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE THOSE GOALS AND ACHIEVE THOSETHOSE GOALS AND ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.GOALS. IT IS VERY CLEAR AND NOW MOREIT IS VERY CLEAR AND NOW MORE PEOPLE KNOW THIS.PEOPLE KNOW THIS. SECRETARY POMPEO JUST GAVE ASECRETARY POMPEO JUST GAVE A SPEECH LAST WEEK TO THESPEECH LAST WEEK TO THE GOVERNORS ABOUT WHAT CHINESEGOVERNORS ABOUT WHAT CHINESE GOVERNMENT ISING DOING AND YOURGOVERNMENT ISING DOING AND YOUR COMPANY IS IN ARM OF THE CHINESECOMPANY IS IN ARM OF THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.GOVERNMENT. YOU CANNOT GO AGAINST THEYOU CANNOT GO AGAINST THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND SAY WE’RECHINESE GOVERNMENT AND SAY WE’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BACK DOOR.NOT GOING TO HAVE A BACK DOOR. WE’RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ACCESSWE’RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ACCESS SO THAT DATA GOES BACK TOSO THAT DATA GOES BACK TO CHINESE GOVERNMENTS.CHINESE GOVERNMENTS. IT’S AGAINST THE LAW.IT’S AGAINST THE LAW. YOU’RE GOING TO GO FIGHT WITH XIYOU’RE GOING TO GO FIGHT WITH XI JINPING ON THIS?JINPING ON THIS? >> EXPERTS, KNOW THAT WE CAN>> EXPERTS, KNOW THAT WE CAN TEST INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CANTEST INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN TEST BACK DOOR.TEST BACK DOOR. >> HOW DO YOU TEST AND GIVE US>> HOW DO YOU TEST AND GIVE US WHAT ARE THE TESTS?WHAT ARE THE TESTS? DGES TALK TO MAIN FOR EXAMPLEDGES TALK TO MAIN FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THEY DO A COMPLETE BREAKWHEN THEY DO A COMPLETE BREAK DOWN OF THE CODE.DOWN OF THE CODE. WHY DO YOU THINK ERICKSON AREWHY DO YOU THINK ERICKSON ARE ALLOWED TO DO BUSINESS IN UNITEDALLOWED TO DO BUSINESS IN UNITED STATES DESPITE THEIR DEEP TIESSTATES DESPITE THEIR DEEP TIES TO CHINA INCLUDING DEEP TIES TOTO CHINA INCLUDING DEEP TIES TO THE CHINA GOVERNMENT BECAUSETHE CHINA GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THERE’S A GOVERNMENT MONITOREDTHERE’S A GOVERNMENT MONITORED RISK MITIGATION INCLUDINGRISK MITIGATION INCLUDING INDEPENDENT TESTING OF THEINDEPENDENT TESTING OF THE PRODUCTS.PRODUCTS. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT --WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT -- WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. >> SETTLE WITH 10 PLUS COMPANIES>> SETTLE WITH 10 PLUS COMPANIES IN TERMS OF INTELLECTUAL FACTIN TERMS OF INTELLECTUAL FACT WHY ALL OF THE SETTLEMENT?WHY ALL OF THE SETTLEMENT? CISCO ERICKSON ACROSS THE BOARD,CISCO ERICKSON ACROSS THE BOARD, AMERICAN COMPANIES HAVE SAIDAMERICAN COMPANIES HAVE SAID MICROSOFT WE HAVE FORMER CEOENMICROSOFT WE HAVE FORMER CEOEN THIS PROGRAM SAYING THAT THEFTTHIS PROGRAM SAYING THAT THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY FROMOF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY FROM CHINA COST THE COMPANY TENS OFCHINA COST THE COMPANY TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. WHY ALL A OF THE SETTLEMENT ANDWHY ALL A OF THE SETTLEMENT AND THEN THOSE SETTLEMENTS INCLUDETHEN THOSE SETTLEMENTS INCLUDE ASSIST LETTER TO THOSE CEO SAYASSIST LETTER TO THOSE CEO SAY YOU CAN NOT DISCUSS WHAT JUSTYOU CAN NOT DISCUSS WHAT JUST WENT ON.WENT ON. >> BUT MARIALET BE FAIR LET’S>> BUT MARIALET BE FAIR LET’S LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THATLOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THAT INDUSTRY IS THATINDUSTRY IS THAT TELECOMMUNICATION MOBILETELECOMMUNICATION MOBILE INDUSTRY.INDUSTRY. LET’S LOOK AT THE NUMBER --LET’S LOOK AT THE NUMBER -- HISTORY OF THE INDUSTRY BUTHISTORY OF THE INDUSTRY BUT LOOKING AT HUAWEI TECHNOLOGYLOOKING AT HUAWEI TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOW DATA BACK TO CHINESETHAT ALLOW DATA BACK TO CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND I’M LOOKING ATGOVERNMENT AND I’M LOOKING AT THE INTELLECTUAL THEFT THATTHE INTELLECTUAL THEFT THAT HUAWEI HAS DONE ON ALL A OFHUAWEI HAS DONE ON ALL A OF THESE TELL COME COMPANIES.THESE TELL COME COMPANIES. WHAT IS HUAWEI ANYWAY?WHAT IS HUAWEI ANYWAY? HUAWEI BEGAN BECAUSE IT WAS --HUAWEI BEGAN BECAUSE IT WAS -- THE BEGINNINGS OF THE CANADIANTHE BEGINNINGS OF THE CANADIAN COMPANY WHICH YOU CHANGE NAMECOMPANY WHICH YOU CHANGE NAME OF.OF. NOT YOU BUT YOUR --NOT YOU BUT YOUR -- YOUR EXECUTIVES CHANGE NAME OF,YOUR EXECUTIVES CHANGE NAME OF, AND BECAME HUAWEI THAT WASAND BECAME HUAWEI THAT WAS ACTUALLY CANADIAN COMPANY.ACTUALLY CANADIAN COMPANY. CONSIDER LET’S GET THE EVIDENCECONSIDER LET’S GET THE EVIDENCE RERELEASED ON THIS MAJORRERELEASED ON THIS MAJOR ALLEGATION BY THE U.S.ALLEGATION BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.GOVERNMENT. THEY WILL NOT RELEASE THETHEY WILL NOT RELEASE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY DOINFORMATION BECAUSE THEY DO NOT --NOT -- >> THEY’RE RELEASING IT EVERY>> THEY’RE RELEASING IT EVERY DAY SECRETARY POMPEO WAS TALKINGDAY SECRETARY POMPEO WAS TALKING TO ALL OF THE GOVERNORS LASTTO ALL OF THE GOVERNORS LAST WEEK HE’S BEEN ON THIS SETWEEK HE’S BEEN ON THIS SET TALKING TO ME ABOUT THE RISKSTALKING TO ME ABOUT THE RISKS AROUND HUAWEI.AROUND HUAWEI. THE PRESIDENT WHILE DOING ATHE PRESIDENT WHILE DOING A TRADE DEAL IS ALSO TELLINGTRADE DEAL IS ALSO TELLING EVERYBODY IN AMERICA THE RISKSESEVERYBODY IN AMERICA THE RISKSES AROUND HUAWEI TOO IF YOU WANT TOAROUND HUAWEI TOO IF YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH HUAWEI DO ITDO BUSINESS WITH HUAWEI DO IT WITH YOUR EYES OPEN BECAUSEWITH YOUR EYES OPEN BECAUSE THEY’LL STEAL AND CHEAT ANDTHEY’LL STEAL AND CHEAT AND THEY’LL HAVE OPEN DOORS TOTHEY’LL HAVE OPEN DOORS TO CHINESE GOVERNMENT.CHINESE GOVERNMENT. WE KNOW THIS ANDY.WE KNOW THIS ANDY. >> FORTUNATELY THE U.K.>> FORTUNATELY THE U.K. GOVERNMENT HAS SAID THEY WANT TOGOVERNMENT HAS SAID THEY WANT TO TAKE AN EVIDENCE-BASED APPROACHTAKE AN EVIDENCE-BASED APPROACH AS CLOSEST ALLIES, THEY AREAS CLOSEST ALLIES, THEY ARE REJECTING WHAT THE U.S. SAYS.REJECTING WHAT THE U.S. SAYS. AND THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT.AND THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT. AND WHILE THEY TALK IN THE HIGHAND WHILE THEY TALK IN THE HIGH LEVEL MATERIALS ABOUT THIS MOSTLEVEL MATERIALS ABOUT THIS MOST RECENT ALLEGATION, THEY WILL NOTRECENT ALLEGATION, THEY WILL NOT PRODUCE FACTS THAT DEMONSTRATEPRODUCE FACTS THAT DEMONSTRATE THEY’RE CORRECT.THEY’RE CORRECT. I HOPE YOU CAN BRING SOME OFI HOPE YOU CAN BRING SOME OF THAT EVIDENCE WITH YOU BECAUSETHAT EVIDENCE WITH YOU BECAUSE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT ANDWE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT AND ALL OF THIS EVIDENCE THAT YOU’RE

Maria Bartiromo presses Huawei exec on 'back door' allegations

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< start="1.436" dur="2.133">>> HOW DID HE GET THAT? MARIA: THAT IS AWESOME AND TRUMP>

< start="3.571" dur="2.001">MARIA: THAT IS AWESOME AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BATTLE AGAINST>

< start="5.573" dur="0.966">ADMINISTRATION BATTLE AGAINST CHINESE TELL COME GIANT>

< start="6.541" dur="1.099">CHINESE TELL COME GIANT INTENSIFY THIS MORNING THIS>

< start="7.642" dur="1.033">INTENSIFY THIS MORNING THIS COMESES ON HEELS OF THE>

< start="8.676" dur="1.567">COMESES ON HEELS OF THE REVELATION THAT HUAWEI>

< start="10.244" dur="2.001">REVELATION THAT HUAWEI REPORTEDLY HAS EVEN MORE ACCESS>

< start="12.246" dur="1.534">REPORTEDLY HAS EVEN MORE ACCESS TO INFORMATION POSSIBLY ABOUT>

< start="13.814" dur="2.068">TO INFORMATION POSSIBLY ABOUT YOU THAN PREVIOUS WILL THOUGHT.>

< start="15.883" dur="1.434">YOU THAN PREVIOUS WILL THOUGHT. INTEL SOURCES SAY BIG KNOWN FOR>

< start="17.351" dur="2.702">INTEL SOURCES SAY BIG KNOWN FOR YEARS THAT WASHINGTON BUILDS>

< start="20.054" dur="1.3">YEARS THAT WASHINGTON BUILDS COVERT ACCESS TO CHINESE>

< start="21.355" dur="1.234">COVERT ACCESS TO CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND TO MOBILE>

< start="22.623" dur="1.134">GOVERNMENT AND TO MOBILE HARDWARE SOFTWARE AND SYSTEMS>

< start="23.791" dur="1.701">HARDWARE SOFTWARE AND SYSTEMS KNOWN IN A CYBERWORLD AS BACK>

< start="25.493" dur="2.568">KNOWN IN A CYBERWORLD AS BACK DOORS.>

< start="28.062" dur="3.236">DOORS. JOINING ME IS CHIEF SECURITY>

< start="31.332" dur="1.167">JOINING ME IS CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER AND GREAT TO SEE YOU>

< start="32.5" dur="1.234">OFFICER AND GREAT TO SEE YOU THANKS FOR COMING BACK THISSING>

< start="33.768" dur="0.333">THANKS FOR COMING BACK THISSING MORNING.>

< start="34.102" dur="1.8">MORNING. >> SO YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS>

< start="35.904" dur="1.466">>> SO YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OVER AND OVER ABOUT>

< start="37.372" dur="0.933">DISCUSSION OVER AND OVER ABOUT BACK DOOR AND I MENTION TO YOU>

< start="38.34" dur="1.7">BACK DOOR AND I MENTION TO YOU IN OUR LAST INTERVIEW, IN FACT,>

< start="40.074" dur="1.034">IN OUR LAST INTERVIEW, IN FACT, TALKING ABOUT VOTE A PHONE>

< start="41.142" dur="1.467">TALKING ABOUT VOTE A PHONE TALKING ABOUT -->

< start="42.611" dur="2.133">TALKING ABOUT -- WHAT HAPPENED IN AFRICA IN>

< start="44.779" dur="2.134">WHAT HAPPENED IN AFRICA IN EUROPE WHERE THERE ARE BACK>

< start="46.915" dur="2.001">EUROPE WHERE THERE ARE BACK DOORS WITHIN HUAWEI COMMITMENT>

< start="48.917" dur="2.001">DOORS WITHIN HUAWEI COMMITMENT THAT ALLOWS THE DATA TO GO RIGHT>

< start="50.919" dur="1.2">THAT ALLOWS THE DATA TO GO RIGHT BACK TO THE COMMUNE FIST>

< start="52.154" dur="0.365">BACK TO THE COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT.>

< start="52.52" dur="1.4">GOVERNMENT. YOU HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER THAT>

< start="53.922" dur="1.8">YOU HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER THAT IT IS JUST IS NOT TRUE.>

< start="55.724" dur="0.866">IT IS JUST IS NOT TRUE. NOW WE HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM>

< start="56.624" dur="0.8">NOW WE HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.>

< start="57.458" dur="1.401">THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOUR REACTION.>

< start="58.893" dur="1.501">YOUR REACTION. EFNL WELL I THINK IT IS>

< start="60.395" dur="1.734">EFNL WELL I THINK IT IS FANTASTIC NEWS THAT THE UNITED>

< start="62.13" dur="1.801">FANTASTIC NEWS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAVE DECIDED TO>

< start="63.965" dur="0.733">STATES HAVE DECIDED TO DECLASSIFY THIS INFORMATION THAT>

< start="64.732" dur="2.368">DECLASSIFY THIS INFORMATION THAT THEY’VE BEEN PROVIDING TO OUR>

< start="67.102" dur="1.133">THEY’VE BEEN PROVIDING TO OUR ALLIES WITHOUT ABLE TO CONVINCE>

< start="68.27" dur="1.3">ALLIES WITHOUT ABLE TO CONVINCE THEM SO I WOULD ASK U.S.>

< start="69.604" dur="1.634">THEM SO I WOULD ASK U.S. PLEASE -->

< start="71.272" dur="1.468">PLEASE -- RELEASE SO-CALLED EVIDENCE>

< start="72.741" dur="1.334">RELEASE SO-CALLED EVIDENCE BECAUSE AS -->

< start="74.109" dur="2.434">BECAUSE AS -- TELL COME AS VOTE GERMANY SAID>

< start="76.545" dur="1.199">TELL COME AS VOTE GERMANY SAID THEY’RE NOT WORRIED.>

< start="77.746" dur="1.2">THEY’RE NOT WORRIED. THEY PROVIDE THE COMMITMENT>

< start="78.947" dur="2.001">THEY PROVIDE THE COMMITMENT THAT’S NECESSARY FOR LAWFUL>

< start="80.949" dur="0.966">THAT’S NECESSARY FOR LAWFUL INTERCEPT OUR EQUIPMENT DOESN’T>

< start="81.917" dur="0.432">INTERCEPT OUR EQUIPMENT DOESN’T DO THAT.>

< start="82.35" dur="1.868">DO THAT. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS AND>

< start="84.219" dur="1.934">WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS AND THAT’S THE FACTS AND SO I’VE>

< start="86.188" dur="0.799">THAT’S THE FACTS AND SO I’VE ENCOURAGED U.S. GOVERNMENT TO>

< start="87.022" dur="1.133">ENCOURAGED U.S. GOVERNMENT TO BRING THEIR SO-CALLED EVIDENCE>

< start="88.19" dur="0.299">BRING THEIR SO-CALLED EVIDENCE FORWARD.>

< start="88.523" dur="1.901">FORWARD. >> WAIT A SENDING WE DO HAVE -->

< start="90.425" dur="1.434">>> WAIT A SENDING WE DO HAVE -- WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE EVIDENCE AND>

< start="91.893" dur="1.801">WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE EVIDENCE AND YOU KNOW THAT.>

< start="93.728" dur="1.734">YOU KNOW THAT. YOUR COMPANY HAS SETTLED WITH>

< start="95.496" dur="1.267">YOUR COMPANY HAS SETTLED WITH NUMBER OF TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES>

< start="96.765" dur="1.567">NUMBER OF TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES AS A RESULT OF THIS.>

< start="98.366" dur="1.701">AS A RESULT OF THIS. AMONG OTHER PUNISHES NOT TO>

< start="100.101" dur="1.401">AMONG OTHER PUNISHES NOT TO MENTION THE THEFT OF INTLEK>

< start="101.536" dur="1.1">MENTION THE THEFT OF INTLEK WHICH WILL PROPERTY AND WE KNOW>

< start="102.637" dur="1.601">WHICH WILL PROPERTY AND WE KNOW VOTE A PHONE ITALY HAD THIS>

< start="104.239" dur="1.834">VOTE A PHONE ITALY HAD THIS ISSUE VOTE A VOTE ITALY FOUND>

< start="106.074" dur="1.601">ISSUE VOTE A VOTE ITALY FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE BACK DOORS>

< start="107.709" dur="1.935">OUT THAT THEY WERE BACK DOORS AND THEN THEY HAD TO RAISE THEIR>

< start="109.678" dur="2.101">AND THEN THEY HAD TO RAISE THEIR HAND, TELL HUAWEI EXECUTIVES>

< start="111.78" dur="1.801">HAND, TELL HUAWEI EXECUTIVES THEY’RE A BACK DOOR HERE AND DID>

< start="113.615" dur="1.534">THEY’RE A BACK DOOR HERE AND DID SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT YOU SAID>

< start="115.183" dur="2.001">SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT YOU SAID YOU CHANGED BACK DOOR SO WE>

< start="117.218" dur="1.334">YOU CHANGED BACK DOOR SO WE ACTUALLY DO INDEED HAVE EVIDENCE>

< start="118.587" dur="1.4">ACTUALLY DO INDEED HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THERE ARE BACK DOORSES ANDY>

< start="120.022" dur="0.666">THAT THERE ARE BACK DOORSES ANDY AND YOU KNOW THAT.>

< start="120.689" dur="1.3">AND YOU KNOW THAT. YOU’RE THE CHIEF SECURITY>

< start="121.99" dur="0.333">YOU’RE THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER.>

< start="122.357" dur="2.235">OFFICER. >> LAST TIME I WAS ON YOUR SHOW>

< start="124.626" dur="1.634">>> LAST TIME I WAS ON YOUR SHOW I ENCOURAGE YOU AND OFFERED YOU>

< start="126.295" dur="2.268">I ENCOURAGE YOU AND OFFERED YOU TO LET YOU USE MY PHONE AND VOTE>

< start="128.564" dur="1.834">TO LET YOU USE MY PHONE AND VOTE IS A PHONE ITALY BECAUSE VOTE A>

< start="130.433" dur="1.099">IS A PHONE ITALY BECAUSE VOTE A PHONE ITALY DOES NOT BELIEVE>

< start="131.567" dur="1.634">PHONE ITALY DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT HUAWEI HAD BACK DOORS THEY>

< start="133.235" dur="1.134">THAT HUAWEI HAD BACK DOORS THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU>

< start="134.403" dur="1.2">DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS TRUE.>

< start="135.638" dur="1.7">JUST SAID IS TRUE. BUT THE GREAT THING IS, THAT>

< start="137.372" dur="2.435">BUT THE GREAT THING IS, THAT U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS SO-CALLED>

< start="139.808" dur="0.8">U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS SO-CALLED DECLASSIFIED THIS NEW>

< start="140.609" dur="0.7">DECLASSIFIED THIS NEW EVIDENCE -->

< start="141.343" dur="1.367">EVIDENCE -- AS THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO COME>

< start="142.711" dur="2.502">AS THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SMOKING WHICH THEY>

< start="145.214" dur="1.4">UP WITH A SMOKING WHICH THEY DON’T HAVE CANT YOU JOIN ME>

< start="146.615" dur="1.367">DON’T HAVE CANT YOU JOIN ME MARIA AND ASKING THAT U.S.>

< start="148.017" dur="1.9">MARIA AND ASKING THAT U.S. GOVERNMENT TO RELEASE THIS>

< start="149.919" dur="0.699">GOVERNMENT TO RELEASE THIS UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION.>

< start="150.652" dur="2.302">UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION. >> I DON’T NEED TO SEE ANY>

< start="152.988" dur="1.2">>> I DON’T NEED TO SEE ANY UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION.>

< start="154.189" dur="1.334">UNCLASSIFIED INFORMATION. I’VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE>

< start="155.557" dur="2.001">I’VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE COMPANIES AND THEIR CEOS.>

< start="157.593" dur="2.134">COMPANIES AND THEIR CEOS. MANY TIMES ANDY AND WHEN I LOOK>

< start="159.728" dur="1.601">MANY TIMES ANDY AND WHEN I LOOK AT VOTE A PHONE THE REASON THAT>

< start="161.33" dur="2.301">AT VOTE A PHONE THE REASON THAT VOTE A TONE IS NOWEN A NEUTRAL>

< start="163.666" dur="1.8">VOTE A TONE IS NOWEN A NEUTRAL LEVEL IS BECAUSE YOU SETTLED>

< start="165.501" dur="0.833">LEVEL IS BECAUSE YOU SETTLED WITH THEM.>

< start="166.369" dur="1.967">WITH THEM. AND A THE SETTLEMENTS ENSURE>

< start="168.337" dur="2.835">AND A THE SETTLEMENTS ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE TO SEES ASIS AND>

< start="171.207" dur="1.133">THAT THEY HAVE TO SEES ASIS AND NOT DISCUSS THE CASE ANYMORE.>

< start="172.375" dur="1.934">NOT DISCUSS THE CASE ANYMORE. >> VOTE A PHONE HAS SAID>

< start="174.343" dur="1.801">>> VOTE A PHONE HAS SAID PUBLICLY IN THE -->

< start="176.178" dur="1.701">PUBLICLY IN THE -- RECENTLY EVEN RESPONSE TO WALL>

< start="177.913" dur="0.834">RECENTLY EVEN RESPONSE TO WALL STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE THEY ARE>

< start="178.781" dur="0.834">STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE THEY ARE NOT WORRIED.>

< start="179.648" dur="1.667">NOT WORRIED. THAT THEY PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT>

< start="181.317" dur="2.935">THAT THEY PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT THAT ALLOWS THE LAWFUL INTERCEPT>

< start="184.287" dur="0.866">THAT ALLOWS THE LAWFUL INTERCEPT FROM OUR EQUIPMENT.>

< start="185.154" dur="2.134">FROM OUR EQUIPMENT. WE DON’T PROVIDE THAT EQUIPMENT>

< start="187.323" dur="1.434">WE DON’T PROVIDE THAT EQUIPMENT WITHOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT THERE>

< start="188.758" dur="2.668">WITHOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT THERE CAN BE NO ACCESS SO ACCESS TO>

< start="191.427" dur="0.399">CAN BE NO ACCESS SO ACCESS TO PERMISSION.>

< start="191.827" dur="1.734">PERMISSION. HERE’S A STORY THAT I HAVE IN>

< start="193.562" dur="1.701">HERE’S A STORY THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME FROM PLC.>

< start="195.297" dur="2.502">FRONT OF ME FROM PLC. VOTE A PHONE GROUP PLC HAS>

< start="197.833" dur="1.234">VOTE A PHONE GROUP PLC HAS ACKNOWLEDGED>

< start="199.068" dur="2.568">ACKNOWLEDGED ACKNOWLEDGE IT HAS FOUND>

< start="201.637" dur="2.535">ACKNOWLEDGE IT HAS FOUND VULNERABLES BACK FOR YEARS BY>

< start="204.206" dur="2.836">VULNERABLES BACK FOR YEARS BY BASED HUAWEI FOR THE CARRIER>

< start="207.076" dur="0.867">BASED HUAWEI FOR THE CARRIER ITALIAN BUSINESS WHILE VOTE A>

< start="207.944" dur="2.635">ITALIAN BUSINESS WHILE VOTE A PHONE SAYS ISSUES WERE RESOLVED>

< start="210.613" dur="0.934">PHONE SAYS ISSUES WERE RESOLVED REVELATION MAY FURTHER DAMAGE>

< start="211.581" dur="2.168">REVELATION MAY FURTHER DAMAGE THE REPUTATION OF A MAJOR SYMBOL>

< start="213.75" dur="2.134">THE REPUTATION OF A MAJOR SYMBOL OF CHINESE GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY>

< start="215.919" dur="0.365">OF CHINESE GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY PARALYSIS.>

< start="216.285" dur="2.802">PARALYSIS. THIS IS A BLOOMBERG STORY WHY>

< start="219.088" dur="0.9">THIS IS A BLOOMBERG STORY WHY DON’T YOU GRADE SCHOOL IT?>

< start="219.989" dur="1.701">DON’T YOU GRADE SCHOOL IT? >> ALL EQUIPMENT HAS>

< start="221.691" dur="1.434">>> ALL EQUIPMENT HAS VULNERABILITIES.>

< start="223.159" dur="1.701">VULNERABILITIES. THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN AN>

< start="224.861" dur="1.133">THAT’S DIFFERENT THAN AN INTENTIONAL MALICIOUS BACK DOOR>

< start="226.029" dur="1.033">INTENTIONAL MALICIOUS BACK DOOR MARCH WHY AND YOU KNOW THAT.>

< start="227.096" dur="1.701">MARCH WHY AND YOU KNOW THAT. ENING ALL EQUIPMENT HAS>

< start="228.798" dur="1">ENING ALL EQUIPMENT HAS VULNERABILITY?>

< start="229.799" dur="1.167">VULNERABILITY? ALL EQUIPMENT DOES NOT HAVE BACK>

< start="230.967" dur="1.434">ALL EQUIPMENT DOES NOT HAVE BACK DOORS TO THE CHINESE COMMUNE>

< start="232.402" dur="1.5">DOORS TO THE CHINESE COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT.>

< start="233.937" dur="1.533">FIST GOVERNMENT. WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY BACK>

< start="235.505" dur="1.801">WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY BACK DOORS GOING TO THE CHINESE>

< start="237.34" dur="2.702">DOORS GOING TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT THAT THE COMMUNE FIST>

< start="240.076" dur="1.534">GOVERNMENT THAT THE COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT SO THAT ANYBODY DATA>

< start="241.611" dur="1.801">GOVERNMENT SO THAT ANYBODY DATA IS OUT THERE AND GOES RIGHT BACK>

< start="243.413" dur="2.702">IS OUT THERE AND GOES RIGHT BACK TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT?>

< start="246.149" dur="1.867">TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT? WE KNOW THIS HUAWEI IS A CHINESE>

< start="248.018" dur="2.567">WE KNOW THIS HUAWEI IS A CHINESE COMPANY IF YOU CAN’T GO AGAINST>

< start="250.62" dur="2.101">COMPANY IF YOU CAN’T GO AGAINST CHINA RULE ARE YOU GOING TO SAY>

< start="252.722" dur="1.167">CHINA RULE ARE YOU GOING TO SAY TO XI JINPING WE’RE NOT GOING TO>

< start="253.89" dur="2.101">TO XI JINPING WE’RE NOT GOING TO PUT A BACK DOOR ON THIS AND GO>

< start="255.992" dur="2.401">PUT A BACK DOOR ON THIS AND GO UP AGAINST THAT EVEN THOUGH WE>

< start="258.395" dur="1.3">UP AGAINST THAT EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW CHINESE ECONOMIES HAVE TO>

< start="259.696" dur="1.033">KNOW CHINESE ECONOMIES HAVE TO LIST TO COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT>

< start="260.73" dur="0.5">LIST TO COMMUNE FIST GOVERNMENT OF CHINA?>

< start="261.231" dur="1">OF CHINA? >> ABSOLUTELY.>

< start="262.232" dur="1.2">>> ABSOLUTELY. AND UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU LOOK>

< start="263.467" dur="2.434">AND UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SITUATION, LOOK AT IT IN>

< start="265.936" dur="1.7">AT THIS SITUATION, LOOK AT IT IN A MACRO SENSE THAT YIET IS>

< start="267.638" dur="1.5">A MACRO SENSE THAT YIET IS TRYING TO HURT CHINA BY HURTING>

< start="269.172" dur="1">TRYING TO HURT CHINA BY HURTING WAY.>

< start="270.206" dur="2.235">WAY. CLEARLY, THE UNITED STATES IS>

< start="272.442" dur="2.201">CLEARLY, THE UNITED STATES IS HURTING AMERICA MORE THAN IT IS>

< start="274.644" dur="1.1">HURTING AMERICA MORE THAN IT IS HURTING WAY AND UNITED STATES>

< start="275.745" dur="1.701">HURTING WAY AND UNITED STATES WILL NOT THINK THIS PASSIONATELY>

< start="277.447" dur="1.367">WILL NOT THINK THIS PASSIONATELY ABOUT WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO>

< start="278.815" dur="0.933">ABOUT WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO THE UNITED STATES IN MATERIALS>

< start="279.749" dur="1.801">THE UNITED STATES IN MATERIALS OF THE COMPETITION WITHIN CHINA.>

< start="281.584" dur="2.135">OF THE COMPETITION WITHIN CHINA. UNITED STATES WILL NOT CREATE A>

< start="283.753" dur="1.067">UNITED STATES WILL NOT CREATE A TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION POLICY.>

< start="284.821" dur="1">TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION POLICY. THEY WILL NOT -->

< start="285.822" dur="2.034">THEY WILL NOT -- >> ANDY, ANDY -->

< start="287.858" dur="1.967">>> ANDY, ANDY -- CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY -->

< start="289.827" dur="1.333">CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY -- COME ON ANDY.>

< start="291.161" dur="0.499">COME ON ANDY. PLEASE.>

< start="291.695" dur="1.7">PLEASE. AND CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY -->

< start="293.43" dur="2.101">AND CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY -- 00 COMPANIES TO SETTLE HUAWEI.>

< start="295.532" dur="1">00 COMPANIES TO SETTLE HUAWEI. THE CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY IS>

< start="296.533" dur="1.834">THE CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMPANY IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY,>

< start="298.402" dur="0.499">A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY, CORRECT?>

< start="298.935" dur="1.534">CORRECT? WE CAN PUT IN -->

< start="300.47" dur="1.467">WE CAN PUT IN -- HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS ON HUAWEI>

< start="301.938" dur="1.234">HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS ON HUAWEI BOARD ARE MEMBERS OF THE>

< start="303.206" dur="1.501">BOARD ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?>

< start="304.741" dur="0.299">COMMUNIST PARTY? FIVE?>

< start="305.042" dur="1.734">FIVE? >> I HAVE NO IDEA MARIA BUT WE>

< start="306.81" dur="3.036">>> I HAVE NO IDEA MARIA BUT WE CAN PUT IT AND PROVE THAT OUR>

< start="309.88" dur="1.867">CAN PUT IT AND PROVE THAT OUR EQUIPMENT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY>

< start="311.749" dur="1.433">EQUIPMENT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY INFLUENCE FOR THE CHINA>

< start="313.183" dur="1">INFLUENCE FOR THE CHINA GOVERNMENT AND WE CAN PROVE>

< start="314.184" dur="0.666">GOVERNMENT AND WE CAN PROVE SO -->

< start="314.852" dur="1.734">SO -- >> HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT BECAUSE>

< start="316.62" dur="1.467">>> HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT BECAUSE I’VE GOT THIS RIGHT HERE.>

< start="318.089" dur="1.7">I’VE GOT THIS RIGHT HERE. EUROPE BIGGEST PHONE COMPANY>

< start="319.79" dur="1.3">EUROPE BIGGEST PHONE COMPANY IDENTIFY HIS OPINION BACK DOOR>

< start="321.091" dur="1.133">IDENTIFY HIS OPINION BACK DOOR IN SOFTWARE THAT COULD HAVE>

< start="322.259" dur="2.935">IN SOFTWARE THAT COULD HAVE GIVEN HUAWEI UNTHORSZED ACCESS>

< start="325.229" dur="1.667">GIVEN HUAWEI UNTHORSZED ACCESS TO CARRIERS FIXED LINE NETWORK A>

< start="326.897" dur="1.334">TO CARRIERS FIXED LINE NETWORK A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES INTERNET>

< start="328.265" dur="2.235">SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES INTERNET SERVICE TO L HL HADS HOME IT PRE>

< start="330.534" dur="1.334">SERVICE TO L HL HADS HOME IT PRE CLEAR THAT HUAWEI WANTS TO SET>

< start="331.902" dur="1.601">CLEAR THAT HUAWEI WANTS TO SET UP INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL OF THE>

< start="333.504" dur="3.302">UP INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL OF THE AS MANY COUNTRIES AS WILL ALLOW>

< start="336.841" dur="2.067">AS MANY COUNTRIES AS WILL ALLOW BY GIVING THEM CHEAP>

< start="338.909" dur="1.2">BY GIVING THEM CHEAP INFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY HAVE BACK>

< start="340.11" dur="2.301">INFRASTRUCTURE SO THEY HAVE BACK DOOR INTO ALL OF THIS HAD DATA>

< start="342.413" dur="1.2">DOOR INTO ALL OF THIS HAD DATA AND CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT>

< start="343.614" dur="1.534">AND CHINESE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT CAN STEAL DA A TAY AND GET>

< start="345.182" dur="2.001">CAN STEAL DA A TAY AND GET SMARTER IN TERMS HOW OTHERS ARE>

< start="347.184" dur="0.8">SMARTER IN TERMS HOW OTHERS ARE DOING THEIR BUSINESS WHATEVER IT>

< start="347.985" dur="1.3">DOING THEIR BUSINESS WHATEVER IT IS THAT COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT>

< start="349.286" dur="1.934">IS THAT COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT WANTS THIS DATA FOR.>

< start="351.222" dur="3.502">WANTS THIS DATA FOR. >> APPARENTLY MOST THE WORLD>

< start="354.726" dur="0.899">>> APPARENTLY MOST THE WORLD DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU AND>

< start="355.659" dur="0.967">DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU AND BELIEVE THERE’S SUCH EVIDENCE.>

< start="356.627" dur="1.3">BELIEVE THERE’S SUCH EVIDENCE. WE HAVE TESTING MECHANISMS IN>

< start="357.928" dur="2.301">WE HAVE TESTING MECHANISMS IN PLACE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM IN>

< start="360.231" dur="1.868">PLACE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM IN BOND IN BRUSSELS IN CANADA WHERE>

< start="362.133" dur="1.8">BOND IN BRUSSELS IN CANADA WHERE THE EQUIPMENT CAN BE TESTED.>

< start="363.935" dur="2.367">THE EQUIPMENT CAN BE TESTED. THE FORMER DEPUTY FOR DNI SAID>

< start="366.303" dur="2.201">THE FORMER DEPUTY FOR DNI SAID WE CAN FIND BACK DOOR AND WE>

< start="368.506" dur="1.534">WE CAN FIND BACK DOOR AND WE HAVE MECHANISMS IN PLACE FOR>

< start="370.041" dur="1.4">HAVE MECHANISMS IN PLACE FOR ACCESSING DATA WE CAN PROVE THAT>

< start="371.476" dur="2.835">ACCESSING DATA WE CAN PROVE THAT OUR DATA IS ONLY SUBJECT TO -->

< start="374.345" dur="2.268">OUR DATA IS ONLY SUBJECT TO -- SUBJECT TO TOTAL CONTROL BY THE>

< start="376.614" dur="1.334">SUBJECT TO TOTAL CONTROL BY THE CARRIERS, EVERY KEY STROKE THAT>

< start="377.982" dur="1.501">CARRIERS, EVERY KEY STROKE THAT WE ACCESS IS RECORDED.>

< start="379.517" dur="1.333">WE ACCESS IS RECORDED. THEY KNOW WHETHER -->

< start="380.852" dur="1.299">THEY KNOW WHETHER -- WHAT WE ACCESS AND THEY KNOW>

< start="382.153" dur="1.267">WHAT WE ACCESS AND THEY KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH IT AND PROVE>

< start="383.421" dur="3.302">WHAT WE DO WITH IT AND PROVE WE’RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PICKET>

< start="386.724" dur="0.833">WE’RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PICKET POINT OF THE CHINA GOVERNMENT.>

< start="387.558" dur="2.168">POINT OF THE CHINA GOVERNMENT. >> YOU HAVE CHINESE COMMUNESSIST>

< start="389.727" dur="1.434">>> YOU HAVE CHINESE COMMUNESSIST ON BOARD AND RUNNING COMPANY.>

< start="391.195" dur="1.701">ON BOARD AND RUNNING COMPANY. CHAIRL OF THE BOARD -->

< start="392.93" dur="1.601">CHAIRL OF THE BOARD -- IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST>

< start="394.532" dur="2.001">IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY YOU HAVE SEVERAL BOARD>

< start="396.534" dur="0.8">PARTY YOU HAVE SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE MEMBERS>

< start="397.335" dur="2.134">MEMBERS THAT ARE MEMBERS OFFICIAL MEMBERS OF THE CHINESE>

< start="399.504" dur="0.766">OFFICIAL MEMBERS OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY ANDY.>

< start="400.271" dur="1.601">COMMUNIST PARTY ANDY. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS AND I KNOW>

< start="401.873" dur="1.133">YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS AND I KNOW YOU DO KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU’RE>

< start="403.041" dur="2.935">YOU DO KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU’RE THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER.>

< start="406.011" dur="0.999">THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER. BUT MARIA, YOU’RE NOT LISTEN>

< start="407.045" dur="1.3">BUT MARIA, YOU’RE NOT LISTEN HADDING TO WHAT I’M SAYING I>

< start="408.346" dur="1.133">HADDING TO WHAT I’M SAYING I KNOW YOU THINK YOU ARE BUT>

< start="409.48" dur="0.6">KNOW YOU THINK YOU ARE BUT YOU’RE NOT.>

< start="410.114" dur="1.701">YOU’RE NOT. THE FACT IS THERE ARE MECHANISMS>

< start="411.849" dur="2.435">THE FACT IS THERE ARE MECHANISMS IN PLACE WHERE INDEPENDENT>

< start="414.285" dur="1.267">IN PLACE WHERE INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN TEST THE SOFTWARE>

< start="415.553" dur="1.734">EXPERTS CAN TEST THE SOFTWARE FOR VULNERABILITIES, AND CAN>

< start="417.288" dur="1.968">FOR VULNERABILITIES, AND CAN TEST FOR BACK DOORS, AND>

< start="419.257" dur="1">TEST FOR BACK DOORS, AND REGARDING THE -->

< start="420.258" dur="2.001">REGARDING THE -- THE UPDATES TO THE EQUIPMENT,>

< start="422.26" dur="1.934">THE UPDATES TO THE EQUIPMENT, INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN EVALUATE>

< start="424.229" dur="1.667">INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN EVALUATE UPDATES TO MAKE A SUREST THERE>

< start="425.897" dur="2.401">UPDATES TO MAKE A SUREST THERE IS NO IMPROPER ACCESS BY HUAWEI>

< start="428.299" dur="0.6">IS NO IMPROPER ACCESS BY HUAWEI TO ANY CUSTOMER.>

< start="428.9" dur="2.869">TO ANY CUSTOMER. >> WHERE WERE THESE INDEPENDENT>

< start="431.803" dur="1.5">>> WHERE WERE THESE INDEPENDENT EXPERT WHEN VOTE A PHONE>

< start="433.305" dur="1.6">EXPERT WHEN VOTE A PHONE FOUNDING BACK OR DOORS WHERE>

< start="434.906" dur="1.667">FOUNDING BACK OR DOORS WHERE WERE THESE INABOUT DEPENDENT>

< start="436.574" dur="0.934">WERE THESE INABOUT DEPENDENT EXPERTS WHEN OTHERS THROUGHOUT>

< start="437.542" dur="1.167">EXPERTS WHEN OTHERS THROUGHOUT EUROPE WITH AND AFRICA FOUNDING>

< start="438.71" dur="3.703">EUROPE WITH AND AFRICA FOUNDING BACK DOORSES AFTER YOU STALLED>

< start="442.414" dur="1.534">BACK DOORSES AFTER YOU STALLED IN FREE AFRICA NATIONS WHERE>

< start="443.982" dur="1.734">IN FREE AFRICA NATIONS WHERE WERE THESE INDEPENDENT AND WHO>

< start="445.717" dur="1.2">WERE THESE INDEPENDENT AND WHO ARE THESE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE>

< start="446.918" dur="1.767">ARE THESE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM ON THE SHOW.>

< start="448.687" dur="3.535">THEM ON THE SHOW. >> SURE, I’LL GET YOU NAMES OF>

< start="452.257" dur="0.332">>> SURE, I’LL GET YOU NAMES OF COMPANIES.>

< start="452.624" dur="1.3">COMPANIES. >> TELL ME NOW -->

< start="453.925" dur="1.601">>> TELL ME NOW -- >> NO NAMES OFF THE TOP OF MY>

< start="455.56" dur="0.934">>> NO NAMES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I’M SORRY.>

< start="456.528" dur="2.802">HEAD I’M SORRY. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE>

< start="459.364" dur="1.301">>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE PENTAGON SET TO BACK NEW U.S.>

< start="460.699" dur="5.905">PENTAGON SET TO BACK NEW U.S. RESTRICTION ISES ON HUAWEI AND>

< start="466.605" dur="2.101">RESTRICTION ISES ON HUAWEI AND PUTT ON EXPERTS HOW HAS THAT>

< start="468.707" dur="1.033">PUTT ON EXPERTS HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED COMPANY ANDY?>

< start="469.775" dur="1.533">IMPACTED COMPANY ANDY? >> I’M SORRY MISSED FIRST PART>

< start="471.343" dur="0.666">>> I’M SORRY MISSED FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION.>

< start="472.01" dur="2.134">OF YOUR QUESTION. >> WELL L WE HAVE NOW NEW>

< start="474.146" dur="1.3">>> WELL L WE HAVE NOW NEW RESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEI>

< start="475.447" dur="1.267">RESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEI EQUIPMENT.>

< start="476.715" dur="1.434">EQUIPMENT. HOW IS IT IMPACTED YOUR COMPANY?>

< start="478.15" dur="2.268">HOW IS IT IMPACTED YOUR COMPANY? THE PENTAGON IS SET TO BACK NEW>

< start="480.419" dur="1.533">THE PENTAGON IS SET TO BACK NEW RESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEI>

< start="481.954" dur="0.866">RESTRICTIONS ON HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES.>

< start="482.821" dur="1.834">TECHNOLOGIES. >> WELL, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES>

< start="484.656" dur="1.401">>> WELL, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THIS IS ABILITY TO SELL IN WHICH>

< start="486.091" dur="0.967">THIS IS ABILITY TO SELL IN WHICH YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABILITY>

< start="487.059" dur="3.302">YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABILITY OF UP TO 300 COMPANIESES ONE IS>

< start="490.362" dur="1.367">OF UP TO 300 COMPANIESES ONE IS SELL TO HUAWEI.>

< start="491.763" dur="2.869">SELL TO HUAWEI. THE DEPARTMENT OF THE DEFENSE>

< start="494.633" dur="2.235">THE DEPARTMENT OF THE DEFENSE THAT INTERPOSED RULE TO FURTHER>

< start="496.869" dur="1.867">THAT INTERPOSED RULE TO FURTHER LIMIT ABILITY OF AMERICAN>

< start="498.738" dur="0.732">LIMIT ABILITY OF AMERICAN COMPANIES>

< start="499.471" dur="2.001">COMPANIES SELL TO HUAWEI WE PURCHASE ABOUT>

< start="501.473" dur="1.267">SELL TO HUAWEI WE PURCHASE ABOUT 11 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND>

< start="502.741" dur="2.435">11 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND FACT IS AND I’VE COME BACK FROM>

< start="505.177" dur="1.801">FACT IS AND I’VE COME BACK FROM DETAIL MEETINGS, IT IS CLEAR>

< start="506.979" dur="1.867">DETAIL MEETINGS, IT IS CLEAR THAT WHILE THE IMPACT ON HUAWEI>

< start="508.848" dur="1.6">THAT WHILE THE IMPACT ON HUAWEI WILL BE AN IMPACT OF THE FACT>

< start="510.449" dur="1.033">WILL BE AN IMPACT OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN’T BUY THOSE>

< start="511.517" dur="0.566">THAT WE CAN’T BUY THOSE TECHNOLOGIES.>

< start="512.084" dur="1.2">TECHNOLOGIES. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK>

< start="513.285" dur="0.766">AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO BUY THEM.>

< start="514.086" dur="1.901">TO BUY THEM. BUT WHAT IS CERTAIN IS, WE’RE>

< start="515.988" dur="1.701">BUT WHAT IS CERTAIN IS, WE’RE GOING TO BE FINE OUR PLAN B>

< start="517.69" dur="1.8">GOING TO BE FINE OUR PLAN B ISING WORKING WELL AND WE’RE>

< start="519.525" dur="0.732">ISING WORKING WELL AND WE’RE INCREDITTEDDABLY SUCCESSFUL EVEN>

< start="520.292" dur="2.001">INCREDITTEDDABLY SUCCESSFUL EVEN IF WE DON’T BUY FROM AMERICAN>

< start="522.327" dur="0.867">IF WE DON’T BUY FROM AMERICAN COMPANIESES AND HAD AMERICA IS>

< start="523.195" dur="0.833">COMPANIESES AND HAD AMERICA IS GOING TO LOSE.>

< start="524.063" dur="1.901">GOING TO LOSE. U.S. HAS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS>

< start="525.965" dur="2.534">U.S. HAS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE U.S. THE>

< start="528.501" dur="0.499">GOING TO BENEFIT THE U.S. THE MOST.>

< start="529.034" dur="0.967">MOST. CONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONS>

< start="530.002" dur="1.968">CONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONS AND WHAT KIND OF LITIGATION TO>

< start="532.004" dur="1">AND WHAT KIND OF LITIGATION TO BE PUT IN PLACE.>

< start="533.038" dur="3.369">BE PUT IN PLACE. >> DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD.>

< start="536.408" dur="1.267">>> DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD. >> YOU KNOW -->

< start="537.71" dur="2.268">>> YOU KNOW -- WHAT SIZZLE FUSION IS -->

< start="539.979" dur="1.834">WHAT SIZZLE FUSION IS -- WHERE ANY TECHNOLOGY GOING INTO>

< start="541.848" dur="1.433">WHERE ANY TECHNOLOGY GOING INTO CHINA HAS TO FIRST GO TO THE>

< start="543.315" dur="0.566">CHINA HAS TO FIRST GO TO THE MILITARY.>

< start="543.883" dur="1.533">MILITARY. YOU KNOW THAT CHINESE>

< start="545.418" dur="1.7">YOU KNOW THAT CHINESE ASPIRATIONS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE>

< start="547.119" dur="1.601">ASPIRATIONS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE SUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD BOTH>

< start="548.721" dur="1.801">SUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND A MILITARILY.>

< start="550.556" dur="2.168">ECONOMICALLY AND A MILITARILY. YOUR PRODUCTS ARE ENABLE AING>

< start="552.725" dur="2.168">YOUR PRODUCTS ARE ENABLE AING OTHER COMPANIES IF TO ALLOW>

< start="554.927" dur="1.968">OTHER COMPANIES IF TO ALLOW ACCESS INTO THEIR DATA SO THAT>

< start="556.896" dur="2.635">ACCESS INTO THEIR DATA SO THAT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE>

< start="559.565" dur="1.601">THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE THOSE GOALS AND ACHIEVE THOSE>

< start="561.2" dur="0.299">THOSE GOALS AND ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.>

< start="561.5" dur="2.235">GOALS. IT IS VERY CLEAR AND NOW MORE>

< start="563.769" dur="1.1">IT IS VERY CLEAR AND NOW MORE PEOPLE KNOW THIS.>

< start="564.904" dur="1.3">PEOPLE KNOW THIS. SECRETARY POMPEO JUST GAVE A>

< start="566.205" dur="2.401">SECRETARY POMPEO JUST GAVE A SPEECH LAST WEEK TO THE>

< start="568.608" dur="1.634">SPEECH LAST WEEK TO THE GOVERNORS ABOUT WHAT CHINESE>

< start="570.243" dur="0.899">GOVERNORS ABOUT WHAT CHINESE GOVERNMENT ISING DOING AND YOUR>

< start="571.177" dur="1.333">GOVERNMENT ISING DOING AND YOUR COMPANY IS IN ARM OF THE CHINESE>

< start="572.545" dur="0.399">COMPANY IS IN ARM OF THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.>

< start="572.945" dur="1.1">GOVERNMENT. YOU CANNOT GO AGAINST THE>

< start="574.046" dur="1.667">YOU CANNOT GO AGAINST THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND SAY WE’RE>

< start="575.715" dur="1.233">CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND SAY WE’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BACK DOOR.>

< start="576.983" dur="1.533">NOT GOING TO HAVE A BACK DOOR. WE’RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ACCESS>

< start="578.551" dur="1.3">WE’RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ACCESS SO THAT DATA GOES BACK TO>

< start="579.852" dur="1.267">SO THAT DATA GOES BACK TO CHINESE GOVERNMENTS.>

< start="581.12" dur="0.933">CHINESE GOVERNMENTS. IT’S AGAINST THE LAW.>

< start="582.088" dur="1.366">IT’S AGAINST THE LAW. YOU’RE GOING TO GO FIGHT WITH XI>

< start="583.456" dur="1.167">YOU’RE GOING TO GO FIGHT WITH XI JINPING ON THIS?>

< start="584.657" dur="3.87">JINPING ON THIS? >> EXPERTS, KNOW THAT WE CAN>

< start="588.528" dur="1.5">>> EXPERTS, KNOW THAT WE CAN TEST INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN>

< start="590.03" dur="0.432">TEST INDEPENDENT EXPERTS CAN TEST BACK DOOR.>

< start="590.496" dur="2.135">TEST BACK DOOR. >> HOW DO YOU TEST AND GIVE US>

< start="592.665" dur="0.967">>> HOW DO YOU TEST AND GIVE US WHAT ARE THE TESTS?>

< start="593.633" dur="2.435">WHAT ARE THE TESTS? DGES TALK TO MAIN FOR EXAMPLE>

< start="596.069" dur="1.367">DGES TALK TO MAIN FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THEY DO A COMPLETE BREAK>

< start="597.437" dur="1.6">WHEN THEY DO A COMPLETE BREAK DOWN OF THE CODE.>

< start="599.039" dur="1.099">DOWN OF THE CODE. WHY DO YOU THINK ERICKSON ARE>

< start="600.139" dur="1.4">WHY DO YOU THINK ERICKSON ARE ALLOWED TO DO BUSINESS IN UNITED>

< start="601.541" dur="1.333">ALLOWED TO DO BUSINESS IN UNITED STATES DESPITE THEIR DEEP TIES>

< start="602.876" dur="1.967">STATES DESPITE THEIR DEEP TIES TO CHINA INCLUDING DEEP TIES TO>

< start="604.844" dur="0.833">TO CHINA INCLUDING DEEP TIES TO THE CHINA GOVERNMENT BECAUSE>

< start="605.678" dur="1.601">THE CHINA GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THERE’S A GOVERNMENT MONITORED>

< start="607.28" dur="1.4">THERE’S A GOVERNMENT MONITORED RISK MITIGATION INCLUDING>

< start="608.715" dur="1.066">RISK MITIGATION INCLUDING INDEPENDENT TESTING OF THE>

< start="609.782" dur="0.7">INDEPENDENT TESTING OF THE PRODUCTS.>

< start="610.483" dur="2.001">PRODUCTS. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT -->

< start="612.485" dur="0.867">WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT -- WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.>

< start="613.386" dur="1.701">WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. >> SETTLE WITH 10 PLUS COMPANIES>

< start="615.088" dur="3.069">>> SETTLE WITH 10 PLUS COMPANIES IN TERMS OF INTELLECTUAL FACT>

< start="618.158" dur="2.301">IN TERMS OF INTELLECTUAL FACT WHY ALL OF THE SETTLEMENT?>

< start="620.46" dur="1.834">WHY ALL OF THE SETTLEMENT? CISCO ERICKSON ACROSS THE BOARD,>

< start="622.295" dur="2.602">CISCO ERICKSON ACROSS THE BOARD, AMERICAN COMPANIES HAVE SAID>

< start="624.931" dur="1.534">AMERICAN COMPANIES HAVE SAID MICROSOFT WE HAVE FORMER CEOEN>

< start="626.499" dur="1.367">MICROSOFT WE HAVE FORMER CEOEN THIS PROGRAM SAYING THAT THEFT>

< start="627.867" dur="1.2">THIS PROGRAM SAYING THAT THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY FROM>

< start="629.069" dur="2.034">OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY FROM CHINA COST THE COMPANY TENS OF>

< start="631.138" dur="1.967">CHINA COST THE COMPANY TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.>

< start="633.106" dur="1.3">BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. WHY ALL A OF THE SETTLEMENT AND>

< start="634.407" dur="3.135">WHY ALL A OF THE SETTLEMENT AND THEN THOSE SETTLEMENTS INCLUDE>

< start="637.577" dur="1.434">THEN THOSE SETTLEMENTS INCLUDE ASSIST LETTER TO THOSE CEO SAY>

< start="639.045" dur="2.368">ASSIST LETTER TO THOSE CEO SAY YOU CAN NOT DISCUSS WHAT JUST>

< start="641.414" dur="0.666">YOU CAN NOT DISCUSS WHAT JUST WENT ON.>

< start="642.115" dur="2.001">WENT ON. >> BUT MARIALET BE FAIR LET’S>

< start="644.15" dur="1.034">>> BUT MARIALET BE FAIR LET’S LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THAT>

< start="645.218" dur="1.601">LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THAT INDUSTRY IS THAT>

< start="646.82" dur="0.599">INDUSTRY IS THAT TELECOMMUNICATION MOBILE>

< start="647.421" dur="0.365">TELECOMMUNICATION MOBILE INDUSTRY.>

< start="647.787" dur="2.401">INDUSTRY. LET’S LOOK AT THE NUMBER -->

< start="650.19" dur="0.7">LET’S LOOK AT THE NUMBER -- HISTORY OF THE INDUSTRY BUT>

< start="650.891" dur="3.435">HISTORY OF THE INDUSTRY BUT LOOKING AT HUAWEI TECHNOLOGY>

< start="654.361" dur="1.667">LOOKING AT HUAWEI TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOW DATA BACK TO CHINESE>

< start="656.029" dur="1.3">THAT ALLOW DATA BACK TO CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND I’M LOOKING AT>

< start="657.33" dur="1.067">GOVERNMENT AND I’M LOOKING AT THE INTELLECTUAL THEFT THAT>

< start="658.432" dur="1.867">THE INTELLECTUAL THEFT THAT HUAWEI HAS DONE ON ALL A OF>

< start="660.301" dur="1.199">HUAWEI HAS DONE ON ALL A OF THESE TELL COME COMPANIES.>

< start="661.501" dur="2.335">THESE TELL COME COMPANIES. WHAT IS HUAWEI ANYWAY?>

< start="663.87" dur="1.401">WHAT IS HUAWEI ANYWAY? HUAWEI BEGAN BECAUSE IT WAS -->

< start="665.305" dur="2.935">HUAWEI BEGAN BECAUSE IT WAS -- THE BEGINNINGS OF THE CANADIAN>

< start="668.275" dur="1.099">THE BEGINNINGS OF THE CANADIAN COMPANY WHICH YOU CHANGE NAME>

< start="669.409" dur="0.733">COMPANY WHICH YOU CHANGE NAME OF.>

< start="670.143" dur="1.267">OF. NOT YOU BUT YOUR -->

< start="671.411" dur="2.134">NOT YOU BUT YOUR -- YOUR EXECUTIVES CHANGE NAME OF,>

< start="673.547" dur="1.4">YOUR EXECUTIVES CHANGE NAME OF, AND BECAME HUAWEI THAT WAS>

< start="674.982" dur="4.036">AND BECAME HUAWEI THAT WAS ACTUALLY CANADIAN COMPANY.>

< start="679.052" dur="2.001">ACTUALLY CANADIAN COMPANY. CONSIDER LET’S GET THE EVIDENCE>

< start="681.087" dur="1.401">CONSIDER LET’S GET THE EVIDENCE RERELEASED ON THIS MAJOR>

< start="682.522" dur="1.133">RERELEASED ON THIS MAJOR ALLEGATION BY THE U.S.>

< start="683.657" dur="0.399">ALLEGATION BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.>

< start="684.057" dur="1.3">GOVERNMENT. THEY WILL NOT RELEASE THE>

< start="685.359" dur="1.1">THEY WILL NOT RELEASE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY DO>

< start="686.46" dur="0.299">INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY DO NOT -->

< start="686.76" dur="2.268">NOT -- >> THEY’RE RELEASING IT EVERY>

< start="689.029" dur="1.234">>> THEY’RE RELEASING IT EVERY DAY SECRETARY POMPEO WAS TALKING>

< start="690.297" dur="1.601">DAY SECRETARY POMPEO WAS TALKING TO ALL OF THE GOVERNORS LAST>

< start="691.932" dur="1.2">TO ALL OF THE GOVERNORS LAST WEEK HE’S BEEN ON THIS SET>

< start="693.133" dur="1.734">WEEK HE’S BEEN ON THIS SET TALKING TO ME ABOUT THE RISKS>

< start="694.901" dur="1.334">TALKING TO ME ABOUT THE RISKS AROUND HUAWEI.>

< start="696.27" dur="1">AROUND HUAWEI. THE PRESIDENT WHILE DOING A>

< start="697.304" dur="2.135">THE PRESIDENT WHILE DOING A TRADE DEAL IS ALSO TELLING>

< start="699.473" dur="1.5">TRADE DEAL IS ALSO TELLING EVERYBODY IN AMERICA THE RISKSES>

< start="700.975" dur="2.101">EVERYBODY IN AMERICA THE RISKSES AROUND HUAWEI TOO IF YOU WANT TO>

< start="703.109" dur="1.602">AROUND HUAWEI TOO IF YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH HUAWEI DO IT>

< start="704.745" dur="2.935">DO BUSINESS WITH HUAWEI DO IT WITH YOUR EYES OPEN BECAUSE>

< start="707.681" dur="1.4">WITH YOUR EYES OPEN BECAUSE THEY’LL STEAL AND CHEAT AND>

< start="709.083" dur="0.9">THEY’LL STEAL AND CHEAT AND THEY’LL HAVE OPEN DOORS TO>

< start="709.984" dur="0.499">THEY’LL HAVE OPEN DOORS TO CHINESE GOVERNMENT.>

< start="710.518" dur="1.533">CHINESE GOVERNMENT. WE KNOW THIS ANDY.>

< start="712.086" dur="1.267">WE KNOW THIS ANDY. >> FORTUNATELY THE U.K.>

< start="713.354" dur="1.3">>> FORTUNATELY THE U.K. GOVERNMENT HAS SAID THEY WANT TO>

< start="714.655" dur="1.701">GOVERNMENT HAS SAID THEY WANT TO TAKE AN EVIDENCE-BASED APPROACH>

< start="716.357" dur="1.534">TAKE AN EVIDENCE-BASED APPROACH AS CLOSEST ALLIES, THEY ARE>

< start="717.925" dur="1.501">AS CLOSEST ALLIES, THEY ARE REJECTING WHAT THE U.S. SAYS.>

< start="719.46" dur="1.333">REJECTING WHAT THE U.S. SAYS. AND THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT.>

< start="720.795" dur="1.266">AND THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT. AND WHILE THEY TALK IN THE HIGH>

< start="722.062" dur="1.701">AND WHILE THEY TALK IN THE HIGH LEVEL MATERIALS ABOUT THIS MOST>

< start="723.764" dur="1.701">LEVEL MATERIALS ABOUT THIS MOST RECENT ALLEGATION, THEY WILL NOT>

< start="725.466" dur="3.736">RECENT ALLEGATION, THEY WILL NOT PRODUCE FACTS THAT DEMONSTRATE>

< start="729.236" dur="0.633">PRODUCE FACTS THAT DEMONSTRATE THEY’RE CORRECT.>

< start="729.904" dur="1.367">THEY’RE CORRECT. I HOPE YOU CAN BRING SOME OF>

< start="731.272" dur="1.534">I HOPE YOU CAN BRING SOME OF THAT EVIDENCE WITH YOU BECAUSE>

< start="732.807" dur="2.901">THAT EVIDENCE WITH YOU BECAUSE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT AND>

< start="735.743" dur="1.067">WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT AND ALL OF THIS EVIDENCE THAT YOU’RE>